In April, we reported to you that Robert Spaemann, the most well-known Catholic philosopher in Germany and a close friend of Pope Benedict XVI, said that Amoris Laetitia would have disastrous consequences for Catholicism:
The chaos has been turned into a principle – with one stroke of a pen. The pope should have known that he will split the Church with such a step and that he leads her into the direction of a schism – a schism that would be not at the periphery, but in the middle of the Church. May God help us to avoid this.
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Each individual cardinal, as well as each bishop and each priest is now called to preserve in his field of authority the Catholic Sacramental Order and to confess it publicly. If the pope is not willing to make a correction, it is up to another pontificate to officially put things back into order.
Now another famous philosopher from the German-speaking world — and another papal friend — has stepped forward with equally damning criticism. Austrian-born Catholic philosopher Josef Seifert, a friend of Pope John Paul II, has released an article in an Italian journal entitled, “The tears of Jesus over Amoris Laetitia.” In it, he compares the words of Our Lord in the Gospel to those found Pope Francis’ post-synodal apostolic exhortation.
Seifert reaches the inescapable conclusion, “How can Jesus and His Most Holy Mother read and compare these words of the Pope with those of Jesus and his Church without crying? Let us therefore cry with Jesus, with deep respect and affection for the Pope, and with profound grief that arises from the obligation to criticize his mistakes!”
The good folks at Gloria.tv have a full report on Seifert’s article:
I just cannot respect anyone who is doing Satan’s work for him, no matter what position he holds. If PF doesn’t uphold the teachings of Christ as laid down in the Ten Commandments, Deposit of Faith and adheres to Tradition, then he simply is not fit to hold the Papal Office.
About half of the Popes from Peter to Francis would fit that bill
Our concern at this moment is having a man elevated to the Pontificate that is clearly not fit for that position. The world and his wife is looking on his every action and debating his every word thanks to the advance in communications in the fairly recent past. People who are not Catholic are beginning to think that PF is the CC while we all know he is opposed to what the CC always stood for & which, as Pope, he is expected to uphold. The fact that he doesn’t (neither those who elected him) is a travesty for mankind and is leading souls to ruin. The other popes you refer to were only known to relatively few people & while damaging to the CC at the time was hardly on the same scale as to-day. There were a few souls willing to call them out for their heresy but not to-day. The Hierarchy itself is rampant with Modernism so comparison to past times is not sensible.
What body would you have that determines who is fit to hold Papal Office? Catholic apologetics have for a thousand years denied the competence of any earthly authority to judge the holder of the office, even an ecumenical council, which only gains it’s authority by the ratification of the Holy Father.
Clearly any Pope will face the throne of judgement as will we all. All we can do is pray, hold the faith that was passed to us, and endure.
Trueorfalsepope.com deals with this problem & quotes from well-known theologians, canon lawyers etc. going back to the early church. They also quote St. Peter as saying that a pope who falls into heresy must be deposed. Anyhow, the St. Gallen Group certainly put enough pressure on Pope Benedict to resign so what’s stopping those Cardinals who are opposed to this New Church from doing the same?
Any Pope who chose to resist.
What would it take, what would a pope have to say or do, for you to see that he is a villain, with an anti-Christ spirit, despising the Church and pushing for religious (Jesus no longer needed) and moral relativism and overhaul of Church dogmas?
Well, this is unfolding in front of our eyes. Are you proposing that we approve, because this evil comes from the pope?
If the pope insults God, we still respect him?
This is mad.
I believe in God, I believe in Jesus Christ.
I do not show respect to anyone who is a liar (who did Jesus say is a liar?).
Pope Paul IV and St Pius V, perpetuity declared null the election of a heretic as pope.
Pope St. Pius V: “Inter multiplices” Motu proprio, confirming the perpetuity of officio “Cum ex apostolatus” of Pope Paul IV 21 December 1566 declaring invalid and null elevations heretical ecclesiastical authorities. Even if the heretic was chosen by all the cardinals is invalid.
Bergoglio was a heretic and remains a heretic.
Pope Pius XII warned in his encyclical Mystici Corporis Christi, the Doctrine of the Mystical Body of Christ, that heresy and apostasy are grievous sins that separate by its own nature a man from the Body of the Church.
Can. 1364 §1 An apostate from the faith, a heretic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication, without prejudice to the provision of Can. 194 §1, n. 2; a cleric, moreover, may be punished with the penalties mentioned in Can. 1336 §1, nn. 1, 2 and 3.’
Can. 194 §1. The following are removed from an ecclesiastical office by the law itself:
2/ a person who has publicly defected from the Catholic faith or from the communion of the Church
St. Thomas Cajetan, O.P. (1469-1534)
Theologian and Cardinal
He points out that the famous axiom “Ubi Petrus, ibi Ecclesia” (Where the Pope is, there is also the Church) holds true only when the Pope acts and behaves as the Pope, because Peter “is subject to the duties of the Office” otherwise, “neither is the Church in him, nor is he in the Church.”
I have no doubt whatsoever that Bergoglio is an out an out heretic. The turning point for me was when he projected monkeys on the facade of St Peter’s on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, But I wonder how it could be demonstrated that he was actually a heretic the day he was (putatively) elected. What I think though is that Our Lord will deliver him over to full blown mental insanity as a punishment for his wickedness.
Hey diddle diddle,
Fernandez and the fiddle,
The Pope jumped over the moon.
The Trad men laughed,
To see such hooey
And the nun ran away with the loon.
Rare footage of +Fernandez from the 80s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwQlwdSphGo
No “deep respect” then?
Not from me. It is illogical. One ought to expect more, not less from those to whom much gas been given.
Would that be Sunoco or Shell?
This is probably witty, but I don’t understand.
Yes indeed I was being a SA, but your sentence provided the humor from your statement here….from those to whom much GAS been given…do you get it now (sp) ? Of course, then it could have also been a non liquid form of gas, considering the blathering of the pope. Blathering as in ‘much wind’.
LOL
I am not correcting my mistake, or your wit won’t shine as it does.
Which begs the question…if Francis were to flap his gums in the breeze tomorrow making some pronouncement, a al ex cathedra style, how can a thinking person go along with it? Just who is this whimsical spirit that comes and goes willy nilly?
By “whimsical spirit”, do you mean the “god of surprises” by any chance?
The worst part is there is so much apostasy, that hardly anyone is noticing, and most “conservative catholic” (small-c) outfits like Church Militant and Catholic Answers and their cronies actually defend the errors or blame the media and mis-translation. Divine intervention is the only way.
They sound like European leaders telling their citizens not to fear Muslim immigration. The old saying, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all of the time. The time for foolishness is over, the time for more prayers for the Holy Father orthodoxy must increase along with calling out the offenses to Catholic sensibilities and heterodoxy.
Speaking of Europe, the ‘opening ceremonies’ for the Gottard Base Tunnel was held recently, more or less a ‘satanic ritual’ no doubt about it. Merkel, Hollande, and other world leaders in attendance. Saw this on Breitbart and also on LifeSite. And in Church news, Pope Francis, yet again comes down on traditional Catholics in his latest homily, the ones that are ‘too rigid’ and ‘too fundamental’, are not Catholics at all’. Don’t know about anyone else here, but the scourging of traditional Catholics is really getting old. And unless I am WAY off base, this latest whipping seems as if he is TRYING to create a schism. So, we are ‘not Catholic’?
“… Pope Francis, yet again comes down on traditional Catholics in his latest homily, the ones that are ‘too rigid’ and ‘too fundamental’, are not Catholics at all.”
What Francis means by his projectively inverted statement is that ‘the traditionals are rigidly and fundamentally opposed to US and our revolutionary program’. And since he would never admit in public that he and his cronies are not really Catholic, therefore it is the traditionals who “are not Catholics at all”.
Projection is always part and parcel of narcissists who think only in terms of themselves. Further they delight in other’s sins or foibles for it makes them feel superior, hence, no shaming but a dilution of long held beliefs. Not much different than the WH.
He, like all these modernist heretics, is a follower (conscientiously or by lack of integrity and discernment) of the evolution theory by Teilhard de Chardin. Allegedly we are evolving toward divinity.
When a Catholic (one trained in discerning good and evil, truth and lie) sees evil and ungodliness, he fears God’s punishment, prays, fasts and repents.
When Bergoglio sees it. he thinks: How wonderful, what progress, we must impose this progress on all those who impede it with all these rigid rules, silly old practices and beliefs.
To help progress, Jorge Bergoglio has even invented a new god, the god of surprises and false mercy, one who despises absolute truth and justice.
yes The Jesuits have reinvented God in their own image and likeness and those of us not aboard are heretics!
Bergoglio likes to call on the flock (exactly like chairman Obama) to not look back and to move forward. Looking back would mean examining oneself, drawing from wisdom accumulated over ages, learning from past mistakes, and that, of course, would only reinforce “the patriarchal oppression” that is allegedly our civilization. I have heard Catholic priests calling God a she. Looking back is permitted only when new apologies are in order, to an ever-growing army of the allegedly and a finite number of the actually oppressed.
Of course, the steady supply of the so called oppressed is made possible due to language events, that rename sin – into a gift to the Church.
Bergoglio hates looking to the past for inspiration, he is pushing forward like a steamroller crashing all its wisdom and beauty in the process of intellectual, aesthetic and moral degradation of our age aka progress.
If he didn’t identify change as progress, he would see that the change we are experiencing is the fruit of the devil’s plan to lead as many souls as possible into rebellion against God – who is not “a God of surprises” but an eternal, infinite, all-knowing, just God. The real God is not flat like the NO Church, what remains flattened by the steamroller. It takes sophistication (not cultivated but bashed by Bergoglio) to see the richness of our past.
Any other deity (be it the unfolding universe, Lucifer, mother Gaia, enlightened humanity) is not Catholic. Bergoglio is right – his God is not who the Catholic Church has taught He is.
The Jesuits used to be such a fine body of men that gave us great saints. I suppose that is why Satan went after them. Saints Ignatius Loyola & Francis Xavier get them back on track by your prayers adjoined to ours.
I saw that tunnel opening video. It’s actually really disturbing to the point of scary.
While I enjoyed the whole of Dr. Seifert’s article, I found the following passage to be one especially worth highlighting:
I think Bishop Schneider’s call for a “Credo” needs to be taken seriously. October 13, 2017 is approaching fast.
From what I understand, Pope Formosus was not condemned for heresy. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable in history could comment.
….with deep respect and affection for the Pope,..
Not from IANS.
Respect for the Divinely-Constituted office, certainly. Respect for the man who has dragged the Bride of Christ out of the Church and rubbed her face in the filth of the gutter? No way.
Apparently, one can take a cleric out of the villas misererias but one can not take the cities of miseries out of the cleric and like the kid from the hood who tries to replicate the slums wherever he goes, Franciscus seems intent on turning the Church into a slum.
O,and IANS does not have the training or expertise to judge whether or not he is a formal heretic and, thus, no longer Pope but there is no doubt- not doubt at all – that he is not recognisable as such to one possessed of the Sensus Catholicus.
Does that mean IANS is Sede? Dunno. Even if he was, he is constrained to assist at the Lil’ Licit Liturgy and to continue as an abandoned lamb because invisiblium within the Hierarchy is that man whose possession of Tradition is such that it could be used as a force against our Inertia Into Indifferentism.
Exactly the line I took issue with.
I know (wanted to say – hope, but no, I am a Catholic, I am rational and I believe in God) that Jesus Christ doesn’t mind me despising one who calls himself His vicar, yet denies His Word and calls it fulfilling the will of the Holy Spirit.
I wish Jorge Bergoglio well, I wish he woke up form his errors, dirty manipulations, grand plans for salvation of the world without Jesus Christ but via unbiblical social justice and brotherhood of all men, and from many other delusions.
Moi aussi. He must be prayed for but not followed for he is leading men down the path of perdition
I consider myself a conservative Novus Ordo Catholic and I was just about finished with the pope after this was released. The final nail in the coffin was yesterday’s homily where he rambled on about ideals again and giving rather overt approval of claiming morally grey areas.
It is interesting to observe that even the knee jerk papal publication, “Culture Wars” has recently published a rather lengthy article/take down of Jorge Bergoglio; The WJC comes to Argentina.
The article observes: In a traditionally Catholic country like Argentina, Jews have managed to influence and co=opt the Catholic hierarchy of the Church by promoting a strategy of blasphemous ecumenical encounters under the auspices of Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, now Pope Francis, when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires and President of the Argentine Conference of Catholic Bishops, a ;policy which he continue now in Rome. Pope Francis’ chief accomplice in this campaign of subversion is Rabbi Abraham Skorka, who is a strong supporter of homosexual marriage and ….
The article is just devastating and can be purchased here:
http://www.culturewars.com/BackIssues/35.htm
“mistakes”? How about heresies?
Isn’t there a line about a guy who sets himself above God? Isn’t this doing that? And come to think of it, that guy has a “preoccupation” with fortification that his fathers never knew – they knew that they were good.
If I’m off the deep end, sorry. I really don’t pretendto be an expert. Just asking.
It is clear that PF has gone postal on the OTF. He is out of control….even by modernist standards. What ever previous thin veneer of “subtlety” has turned into a frontal barrage of continuous heretical assaults on the OTF and Faithful. One has to ask the question as to PF’s mental state and overall health. The upside in this fiasco of a papacy is that PF has now become sooo outrageous that any Catholic or even non Catholic of good will has to seriously question the blatant heresy spewing forth from Francis. It can’t be ignored any longer from anyone who calls oneself “Catholic”. Time to resist, push back, put up or shut up. The Denzinger-Bergoglio website is probably the best resource of choice to track the daily PF. Steve does an outstanding job of commentary but does not have the time or resources that D-B has…namely priests using the filter of Church magisterium etc.
https://en.denzingerbergoglio.com/francis-main-innovations/
Yes, there is no subtlety any longer, which means the exposure and destruction of the evil one’s plans is at hand. Pride goeth before destruction…
Thanks Steve for bringing this to our attention. What immediately comes to mind about Josef Seifert speaking-out about Pope Francis heretical statements is the deafening silence, the failure to speak-out, by nearly all the clergy when it is their God given obligation to do so as protectors of Our Faith. Are they fearful of losing their jobs while many will lose their souls because of Pope Francis? With such actions they condemn themselves.
What can we do? We could fast one day a week on water, only. It would be a small thing to do when the salvation of so many is now at risk.
O my, yes, let us be enjoined in this copious sorrow!
This is another “why”, my friends, that the Immaculate & Sacred Hearts of Jesus & Mary continue to be surrounded by thorns.
At Fatima, we learned:
“O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Your Mercy”. (Our Lady at Fatima, July 13 1917)
And yes, we must pray & sacrifice: make reparations!
We could also kneel with more reverence, perhaps, for a few more seconds, when we genuflect in front of the Holy Tabernacle, since some do not even acknowledge His Real Presence as they whisk by to their seat in the pew, chattering about everything & nothing.
I have noticed and read how, one of our current Popes, Francis, does not kneel during his public Holy Hour. O my!
Ad Jesum per Mariam.
JAMLY,
euie
When I last looked he doesn’t genuflect at the Consecration either. I am always suspicious of priests who will not follow this rubric. It makes me question whether they believe in the Blessed Sacrament or have any supernatural faith at all.
Yes, and thank you Deacon A!
So, perhaps, with sincere and loving measured-movements, we shall make acts of reparation as we genuflect before our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, each time we pass by the Holy Tabernacle.
Moreover, the Consecration of the Bread and Wine into the Blody, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus is the Greatest Miracle! This Transubstantiation is True Love indeed!
Bowing low and offering homage is the least that we could do to a Sacrament so Divine and so Great! A Sacrament, so to speak, Who is so utterly Magnificent!
O Heart of Jesus, formed by the Holy Spirit in the Womb of the Virgin Mother, have mercy on us all!
JAMLY,
euie
PS: The Good NEWS is this and only this: God is with us! Emmanuel! The Holy Eucharist!
Angel Gabriel says it best to the shepherds in the fields.
Often, I hear at the Homily/Sermon that we leave Holy Mass and become social workers, so to speak: Love your neighbor for who they are. But, do not rile their feathers, so to speak.
Do not the atheist, protestants, budists, hindus, and muslims, etc., do likewise: social work by helping their neighbor? Yes, and some do wonderfully!
And, this social work is always a good thing indeed.
But, the Good NEWS is detailed wonderfully in the entire Litany of the Sacred Heart!
For instance, we pray: O Heart of Jesus, Son of the Eternal Father, have Mercy on us!
Good NEWS: Jesus is in the Holy Eucharist, so come to Him (go to the Catholic Mass) all you who are burdened, for He is Meek and Humble of Heart!
Ave Maria!
euie
To the General Councils of the Church there have been summoned, in the last 850 years, as well as the bishops, other ecclesiastics of importance, the General Superiors of religious orders, for example, and abbots of particular monasteries. But these are present by concession. The essential elements of the General Council are, in addition to the pope, the bishops ruling their sees. And the bishops are present as the accredited witnesses of what is believed throughout the Church. This is the traditional, standard conception of their role on these occasions. And for typical modern statements, contained in well-known textbooks used throughout the Church today in hundreds of theological classrooms, this from Christian Pesch, S.J.,[6] may be quoted: “The bishops do not come together in order to think up something new out of their own minds, but in order to be witnesses of the teaching received from Christ and handed out by the Church”;…
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/coun1.html
Then what can be done about a Council that did not do that;then what can be done about a putative pope who use the synodal process to manipulate craven bishops into accepting his radical anthropocentric agenda of doctrinal change?
Bergoglio has brought to the Bishopric of Rome his heterodox praxis in Argentina and the electors in the conclave knew of his agenda and so what does the reveal to we abandoned lambs?
It reveals that we have a chief shepherd and his collegial conferees beating we faithful with their crosiers because we do not accept their destructive novelties, praxis, and doctrines.
This is a remarkable time to be alive for a faithful Catholic for a faithful Catholic is now the enemy of those now in control of The One True Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Truly this is Mysterium Iniguitatis squared.
I am pretty sure I heard this professor lecture in the U.S. In the 1980s. How wonderful to see his courage today making news!
PF’s theology is as loony s his global warming alarmism.
Sad…