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Seen Together This Evening in Rome

That’s a meeting I’d love to listen in on…

For those who don’t know them on sight, that’s Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider, sitting side by side. May God grant them wisdom and courage to do what is needful…

64 thoughts on “Seen Together This Evening in Rome”

  1. I imagine when these dear cardinals were once priests, all they ever thought about was serving the Lord, and bringing Christ to us, through the Sacraments in their parishes. They wanted nothing more than to be a good and holy priest. This is what makes these men so endearing to our Lord. For all they ever wanted to do was to serve their Master.

    And now, years later……..let it be said that they served Him well.

  2. While you are praying for these men, think about two things: 1. The incredible sense of fate, and weight, they must feel as being among the very few prelates to stand up for Truth, and 2. The incredible amounts of demonic attack they are now under as a result of their actions in defending Christ and His teachings.

    Now stop what you are doing and dedicate HOURS of prayer for these men.

          • Hello Margaret,

            I went to Mass today, December 6th, Byzantine Rite. I am of the Latin Rite, but my children’s school also attends Byzantine Rite. I believe St. Nicholas was reported to want to slap Arius, according to the priest who said Mass. If I am correct, I think he did, right across the face.

            Many prayers said for Cardinal Burke and the others, beseeching John Chrysostom for strength and protection.

            Happy Feast of St Nicholas.

          • Thank you. Mom and I went to Liturgy this morning too.

            Most people think of St. Nicholas as the one who brings gifts to everyone. When you read more about St. Nicholas, it’s clear that he is NOT a wimp! He’s bold and fearless.

            A Happy Feast of St. Nicholas to you and everyone.

  3. FYI, Bishop Schneider will be celebrating a Pontifical Mass this Thursday, December 8 for the feast of Our Lady’s Immaculate Conception at the FSSP aposolate in Fribourg, Switzerland (Basilique Notre-Dame de Fribourg). This Mass will be streamed live on at 10:00 a.m. local time (4:00 a.m. ET for those of us in the U.S.). For those unable to wake up early enough to assist at the Mass live, usually posts video of the day’s Mass later that day; in addition, they will probably upload it to the Basilique Notre-Dame de Fribourg YouTube page.

  4. These men are the Peter and Paul of our age. They meet in Rome, the mother of the Church and the place of the martyrdom of those immortal Apostles of Christ. They communicated the Divine and Catholic Faith, as did the Apostles of old. They strengthened the Flock of Christ, as did Ss. Peter and Paul.

    May Almighty God and the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul aid them in teaching the True Faith, and strengthen them against the Enemy, who viciously attacks the Church. May the All-Holy Mother of God, Mediatrix of all Graces, keep them under Her maternal protection. May the mighty Princes of Heaven rally around them.

    This video of St. Michael’s prayer is most apt for our age:

    • That video of the battle, our battle, is absolutely stirring and wonderful and I will spread it around here especially to the Father of St. Michael the Archangel whose parish is quite closeby here. thank you!

      • Yes, it is. I love how the music goes into its darker moments at the point of mentioning Lucifer masquerading as an angel of light and invading the earth. It really matches with the imagery and the Prayer of Leo XIII.

    • WOW! So stirring in this day and age when it’s SO needed. Thank you. Gave me goose bumps!

      You mention them as Peter and Paul. Any thoughts about Revelation when mentioning that?

      • Firstly, I thought how Providential it was that these two great Bishops of the Church are usually far apart, but at the right time (the Dubia Controversy) they meet in Rome, just like Peter and Paul. However, it is similar to the Two Witnesses from the Apocalypse. But, the Church Fathers believed them to be the two assumed Prophets – Henoch and Elias.

        On the subject of the Apocalypse, the Ven. Bartholomew Holzhauser commentated that the seven Churches of the Apocalypse are the seven ages of the Church. We are in the Fifth Age, and just look at what he said:

        “The fifth period is one of affliction, desolation, humiliation, and poverty for the Church. Jesus Christ will purify His people through cruel wars, famines, plagues, epidemics, and other horrible calamities. He will also afflict and weaken the Latin Church with many heresies. It is a period of defections, calamities and exterminations. Those Christians who survive the sword, plague and famines, will be few on earth. Nations will fight against nations and will be desolated by internecine dissensions…”

        “During this period the Wisdom of God guides the Church in. several ways: 1) by chastising the Church so that riches may not corrupt her completely; 2) by interposing the Council of Trent like a light in the darkness, so that the Christians who see the light may know what to believe,
        3) by setting St. Ignatius and his Society in opposition to Luther and other heretics;
        4) by carrying to remote lands the Faith which has been banned in most of Europe…”

        “Are we not to fear during this period that the Mohamedans will come again working out their sinister schemes against the Latin church…”

        “During this period, many men will abuse of the freedom of conscience conceded to them. It is of such men that Jude the Apostle spoke when he said, ‘These men blaspheme whatever they do not understand; and they corrupt whatever they know naturally as irrational animals do… They feast together without restraint, feeding themselves, grumbling murmurers, walking according to their lusts; their mouth speaketh proud things, they admire people for the sake of gain; they bring about division, sensual men, having not the spirit.’”

        “During this unhappy period, there will be laxity in divine and human precepts. Discipline will suffer. The Holy Canons will be completely disregarded, and the Clergy will not respect the laws of the Church. Everyone will be carried away and led to believe and to do what he fancies, according to the manner of the flesh…”

        “They will ridicule Christian simplicity; they will call it folly and. nonsense, but they will have the highest regard for advanced knowledge, and for the skill by which the axioms of the law, the precepts of morality, the Holy Canons and religious dogmas are clouded by senseless questions and elaborate arguments. As a result, no principle at. all, however holy, authentic, ancient, and certain it may be, will remain free of censure, criticism, false interpretation, modification, and delimitation by man…” 7

        “These are evil times, a century full of dangers and calamities.. Heresy is everywhere, and the followers of heresy are in power almost everywhere. Bishops, prelates, and priests say that they are doing their. duty, that they are vigilant, and that they live as befits their state in life. In like manner, therefore, they all seek excuses. But God will permit a great evil against His Church: Heretics and tyrants will come suddenly and unexpectedly; they will break into the Church while bishops, prelates and priests are asleep. They will enter Italy and lay Rome waste; they will burn down the churches and destroy everything.…”

        “The fifth period of the Church, which began circa 1520, will end with the arrival of the holy Pope and of the powerful Monarch who is called “Help From God” because he will restore everything [in Christ]…”

  5. how do you know they weren’t chosen by the Vatican to calm/control the traditional/real catholics during the reform/destruction?

  6. In case any of you haven’t heard, Cardinal Burke will be celebrating a Pontifical High Mass at the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe in La Crosse, Wisconsin at 11:00 AM. Anyone here going? I know my wife and I will be there. Seems a good time to, if possible, offer this faithful prelate some encouragement and to pray for the Church in this time of grave crisis.

    Bishop Schneider it seems is doing the rounds too (Switzerland and Spain I know of.) If you’re close to any of these places, it seems opportune.

    • I so wish I could be there. I see there are several opportunities throughout this next week and I am sorely in need of a moments retreat. perhaps I will simply have my schedule cleared and take the journey. It would also be good to give some overt encouragement for the task Cardinal Burke has undertaken.

    • There are others who stand along side them. They have been chosen to take the lead, but as evident from this site alone, there are many more who will work to defend the truth.

      We must encourage them and give them the strength they need to carry on, through our own prayers and sacrifices and through our actions if called upon.

      • I agree.

        I have no doubt that much is going on behind the scenes. Having said that, we have also seen just how pathetic has been the overall leadership response to DECADES of abuses and just plain heresy that has permeated the culture of the Catholic Church.

        This situation APPEARS to be different. The Church is in desperate need for not just “clarity” but in fact the wholesale rooting out and condemnation of heretical teachings and practices. I sincerely hope this move by the 4 Cardinals marks the beginning of such an effort.

    • Based on his philosophy of “processes” being more important than concrete actions, I think that is EXACTLY what he is going to do.

      And then Burke has said he and the others will issue a correction.

      How’s this for a bit of prediction: I think that Burke will understand that there is not much to watch in a one-man boxing match, so I suspect that in order to avoid simply being ignored yet another time after issuing a correction, he must first have substantial backing. This I believe is what he is preparing now.

      I’m certain Burke will have very strong Canon Law, Tradition and Scripture support for what he does.

      But what comes SPECIFICALLY after a correction, who knows?

      Let’s say in theory 100% of the bishops want Pope Francis deposed and Pope Francis refuses to vacate the premises. Can you see the Swiss Guards…what?…forming a Square around the Pope and firing on the first Bishop who tries drag the Pope out of the Vatican?

      Obviously that is a comical and unlikely scenario, but does anyone have any eventualities that are more realistic?

      Who knows.


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